20.7.08

Gales en la Union Jack


Un par de noticias sobre la posibilidad de que Gales esté representado en la bandera británica al igual que Inglaterra, Escocia e Irlanda.


Welsh-influenced Union Flag launched at Llangollen
Jul 16 2008 By David Simister

A CONTROVERSIAL campaign to redesign the Union Flag with Welsh elements has been launched by an English flag fanatic at the International Eisteddfod in Llangollen last week.
Campaigner John Yates, from Milton Keynes, has amended the nation’s favoured flag to include the colours of the traditional Welsh flag, and is hoping the Welsh people will get behind his bold new design.
"It just came like a bolt out of the blue to me. With two crosses and two saltires in the four flags of the UK countries, it was an entirely natural design of flag," said John, 60.
Mr Yates says the Eisteddfod, held last week at Llangollen’s Royal International Pavilion, was a natural place to garner support for his proposals, because it was exactly two years ago at the 2006 Eisteddfod when he came up with the idea for his creation.
"I had struggled with the idea of a new Union Flag for over 30 years but it was at the Eisteddfod that I saw someone selling the St David’s flags. It was like an answer to a maiden’s prayer."
The new design mixes the three existing flags from the United Kingdom - England’s cross of St George, Ireland’s saltire of St Patrick and Scotland’s blue and white colours - with the black and yellow cross of St David, used by many as an unofficial flag for the Welsh nation.
Wales’ official flag, The Red Dragon, was not included in Yates’ design because it did not match the aesthetic embraced by the Union Flag.
Clwyd South MP, whose constituency includes Llangollen, said he welcomed the proposals.
"I fully support better representation of Wales on the Union Flag. I have signed a parliamentary petition supporting such a change along with several of my Welsh colleagues. The flag should mean something to everyone in the Union and instil pride in Great Britain as a whole."
Yates says that along with parliamentary support, he has also received favourable comments from the Queen regarding the new design.
For more information and to support John’s campaign, contact 01908 606362.



Welsh dragon call for Union flag
The union jack should be combined with the Welsh flag, according to an MP who wants the change to be made to reflect Wales' status within the UK.
In a Commons debate, Wrexham's Labour MP Ian Lucas said Wales' Red Dragon should be added to the union jack's red, white and blue pattern.
He said the union jack currently only represented the other three UK nations.
But Stewart Jackson, Conservative MP for Peterborough, said the plan was "eccentric" and would be unpopular.
"I do not believe it would add to the unity of the country," he said.
However, Culture Minister Margaret Hodge conceded that Mr Lucas had raised a valid point for debate.
She said the government is "keen" to make the Union Jack "a positive symbol of Britishness reflecting the diversity of our country today and encouraging people to take pride in our flag".
And the minister acknowledged that a number of people across Britain were unhappy about flying the Union Jack as they felt it does not "truly represent the United Kingdom".
However, she said redesigning the flag had not been part of a consultation currently being carried out.
'State of grace'
Their comments come after a Commons debate in which Mr Lucas said: "I believe that the Union Flag should change now to reflect the four nations of the United Kingdom - England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales."
He argued that the UK "did not exist in a constitutional state of grace".
"Changing an iconic image such as the union flag may appear to be more difficult to achieve than 200 years ago, but nonetheless I believe the change is right," he said.
"Let the debate begin, let the rest of the world know that the iconic symbol of the United Kingdom may change and that the reason that it will change is that we have a new constitutional settlement that affords Wales its true place in the Union."


7 comentarios:

http://hav8.blog124.fc2.com dijo...
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Tribuno Sertorio dijo...

Curiosa noticia. Lo que no entiendo es que la bandera de Gales actualmente es otra, la del dragón rojo, y esta era la anterior. Curiosamente existe movimientos regionalistas en Gran Bretaña y especialmente en Inglaterra presentando sus propias banderas y simbología. Por ejemplo, hay un partido regionalista en Wessex.

Aparte le adjunto una noticia en alemán que creo entender que cuando cubrieron el partido de la Eurocopa alemania-turquía en las noticias alemanas se equivocaron con su propia bandera. No es de extrañar, contando que los colores de la selección, blanco y negro, es más "histórico" que la actual que tienen

http://www.bild.de/BILD/hamburg/aktuell/2008/06/23/tom-buhrow-erklaert/bei-bild-die-peinliche-fahnen-panne.html

un saludo

Tribuno Sertorio dijo...

Cielo santo!

La noticia sobre la televisión alemana ya la publicó el 24/6/08 en su blog. Si es que me sonaba cuando la he leido...

Lamento el descuido

Col·leccionista dijo...

No me gusta nada.

José Manuel Erbez dijo...

Los colores negro y amarillo están tomados de la denominada "bandera de San David", negra con una cruz amarilla. Esta es una especie de bandera alternativa a la blanca y verde con el dragón rojo, aunque no estoy seguro de si existe rivalidad entre ambas o si son complementarias (al estilo de Escocia, donde se usa tanto la azul con aspa blanca como la amarilla con león rojo)
Al parecer, esta bandera fue usada entre 1936 y 1954 por la Iglesia Anglicana en Gales, cuando dependía directamente de la de Inglaterra. Estaría basada en el escudo heráldico de la sede episcopal de San David, cabeza de esta iglesia, con los colores invertidos.

Col·leccionista dijo...

A mi me gusta mas esta propuesta

Clica

Uladh dijo...

Caso hipotético de que se hiciera, la verdad es que es una horterada de bandera. Me la imagino ondeando en lo alto del Peñón y todos los llanitos hipnotizados con el juego de aspas de colores.

Por otro lado decir que la bandera amarilla con el leon rampante no es otra bandera escocesa, sino el estandarte que SOLO puede usar el rey de Escocia, en este caso Isabel II. La bandera oficial es la azul con el aspa de Sant Andrew blanca.